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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:23 am 
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Just reading that made me groan.

I can't imaging the amount of shit you must have given up to do all that. My mum and sister have been playing WoW since 2007 and even they don't have one of each class, let alone capped.

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FUCK. I got my weaver past lvl 30 during the free log-in and bumped some other DoH classes up to upper-20, plus a start on the Rogue class. I need to focus more on getting one of each discipline leveled, but I keep running into supply shortages, then see I can get it remedied if I just bump another class up a couple levels, and the cycle continues. :(

Incidentally, it's still very much in the air with various projects in coming weeks, but I might be renewing my membership this weekend. I needs dis.

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You would think so, but I haven't given anything up really. If you pay attention to what the game tells you, you will find it literally THROWS experience at you. You cannot help but level up. Even if you played for one hour a day, within a month you could have one character go from 1-50.

Duty Roulette - a random roll on a dungeon, get an absurdly massive EXP bonus for doing a roulette, with extra EXP bonus if you're an "adventurer in need", which is basically a class that is in short supply. With more DPS than tanks or healers, joining a roulette as a Paladin or White Mage will get you AT LEAST one whole level.

Guildhest roulette - same as above, but for the guildhest mini-missions. You also get EXP bonuses for having no-one die, and for completing the guildhest for the first time as a certain class, so its wise to change up.

Crafting guildleves - earn EXP for crafting items, and then earn EXP for handing them in. EXP doubles if the item is High Quality.

Gathering guildleves - get EXP for gathering, then get EXP bonuses for reaching quota, time taken to do it, etc.

Spiritbonding - for just half an hours work, you can make several thousand gil, just by spiritbonding gear and then converting to materia to sell on the market. Monday night, I sold two materia for 380,600 gil. EACH. In fact, if I'd been super lazy, I could have spiritbonded the gear just by auto-crafting high level ingots while I ate a sammich or had a wank. Or both.

Retainers - these bitches sell your shit on the market, and now you can send them on "ventures" (read: send them out hunting, gathering, etc) I don't even need to gather materials myself anymore. Send those guys out, they come back with my shit. And sometimes they come back with mystery gifts - I have two Primal weapons and about six lvl55 weapons from their ventures.

The game pretty much falls over itself to give you everything you want. You just have to know what you're looking for.

Shit, I bought a plot of land for 1.7mil, an actual house for 400k, and then the better part of a million on hiring menders, vendors, buying furniture, stables, even a private room, and I still have almost 5mil left.

And thats before I start on about all the gil you get from all the quests, dailies, hunts, etc, that you can do...

I mean, Cassy was on another server, going solo, and just on her own she made over a million gil, and that was before she beat the story and unlocked all the real potential, and without a craft!

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Smokey, if you need assistance, theres materials and shards in the company chest, plus the on-site vendor sells most materials at low prices.

And if you don't wanna dungeon with randoms, we recently recruited a few Irish dudes who, to be honest, would fit perfect with you fuckers. :)

One of them went from 1-15 Lancer last night in under an hour...

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Yeah, I do leves fairly regularly, plus the grand company supply missions when I can. I haven't even started the gladiator guild line, but I'm in my low teens with the marauder, which I imagine would qualify as a tank. I'll have to work on that some more so I can take full advantage of the duty roulette.

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Don't think you have to beat the game to unlock low-level roulette, and you certainly don't need to be a specific class, but if you progress down the main story questline (not your class quests) you'll unlock it in no time. I think its the first four or five dungeons that are classed low level...

Marauder and Gladiator, while different disciples, are both tanks. I used to be moist for Paladin (what Gladiator becomes) but Warrior (what Marauder becomes) is just so much fun.

Delivery missions also deliver double EXP if you hand in high quality items. Always, ALWAYS, hand in high quality whenever you can.

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Oh wow. Unlock the first dungeon at level 15, unlock low-level roulette. :-D

http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/ ... #Low_Level

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Yeah, I always gun for HQ items whenever applicable.

I need a keyboard for my PS3. I hate being unable to communicate with anyone quickly at anything more than basic yes/no levels.

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I have a naff little bluetooth thumbpad thing you can have, or just bang a USB keyboard in and stop being French. ;-)

We do have access to a Teamspeak account, but it belongs to a WoW clan, so thinking of looking into one of our own.

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Oh shit, there's a USB attachment for the controller for less than $20!

Even with the TS deal, I'd still have the same problem with other people in dungeons, so this sounds like a no-brainer.

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Or you could get the official PS3 thumbpad, likely for a whole lot less?

Check Amazon.

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LMAO. Amazon US have then at fiddy dollaz a pop, twenny-wun for pre-owned.

Amazon UK has them from a fiver up, pre-owned.

Wire me ten bucks and I'll buy and mail you one from here. ;-)

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You mean this thing? I don't know if I want to try one of those used. Looks like there's a lot of potential for breakage there. I'll see if I can find one in-store locally, now that I know there is an official version.

EDIT: Just realized that the keyboard sits above the controller. I don't like that; seems like you'd have to shuffle the controller around a fair bit to use it, while the one I found sits just below where your thumbs sit naturally.

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I've had one of each. The ones that sat between the thumbsticks was alright, but never "felt" right.

The official one does require some movement when typing, but is strong as fuck, secure as fuck, and doubles as a touch sensitive trackpad.

Have mine permanently attached, it's amazing.

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