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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate question, the ultimate debate
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:32 pm 
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It all depends on his intentions. If he told it as a lie then his nose would grow. This would ultimately make it true but only after the fact that he had lied about it. If he really thought his nose was about to grow then it wouldn't. This would make it a lie and his nose would then grow after a long enough time period had passed for him to realize it wasn't going to grow and he was wrong.

In conclusion, his nose would grow. How long it took would be determined by the intentions of his statement.

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Wow, best answer yet.

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PieMan wrote:
It all depends on what view of science you're taking. For example, take quantum mechanics.

Assuming the timeframe is linear and no precognition is available, then the nose can exist in both a normal and extended state until it is observed. The standing state is an ungrown nose, the growth is only triggered when statement != truth. Therefore to say "My nose is about to grow" is inaccurate, which will trigger a nasal surface area increase. At the time the statement was made, the nose was not about to grow. As we have already accepted the timeframe is a mono-directional forward linear progression, the latter reaction cannot affect the earlier statement. As the nose grows, it will become visible to Pinocchio, thereby setting the state as one of growth. Given it is the act of Pinocchio seeing his own nose that sets the quantum state of the nose, the follow-up question should be "Given the previous followed procedures, what would happen if Pinocchio has his eyes shut?"

Another follow-up question is "Why isn't he down the local brothel declaring he's Superman?"

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It all depends on whether he believed it was a lie or not. Pinocchio's nose doesn't grow because other people know he's lying. It grows because he knows he's lying.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll go out back and shoot myself now. After all, what is there left to live for? :(

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