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I do not believe in God.

The Bible was written by rich and powerful men, in a time of superstition, tyranny, and misogyny.

The better kept and more corroborated histories of other civilisations disagrees with Christian 'history' on many points (for instance there is no proof that any slaves were employed to build pyramids -- Egyptian history says these were farmers who worked as labourers during flood season, when there was very little farming they could do).

Jesus died 2000 years before his story was written down (and now they think even that story was stolen from 2000 years previous to that.

Some Christians do themselves (and their faith) no favours by being irrational, illogical, incapable of reason, and incapable of accepting any evidence presented to them.

Having said all that, it's quite funny for me when I realise the following -- which could save Christians from having to argue this point EVER AGAIN.

If God exists, he knows everything and sees everything, right?
If God exists, he can create light, and oceans, and trees and stars, right?
If God exists, he can make human beings from dust, and mud, and ribs, right?

So if you think about it:
He could have created evolution.


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Life as we know it is sustained through the non-random survival of randomly mutating replicators...

Dawkins' summary of Darwin's Summary on Natural Selection.

Randomly mutating replicators?

So this "higher power" allowed his plan of non-random survival, on his now randomly mutating replicators?

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As I said, I don't believe in God, and thus don't believe in Creation.

My point is hypothetical -- IF there is a God, and IF this God has such power, (IF IF IF IF), then IF He exists, He would certainly be able to plan and create evolution.

I try to understand things from another point of view, whether I agree or not -- it seems only fair to at least try!


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Harken82 wrote:
The Bible was written by rich and powerful men, in a time of superstition, tyranny, and misogyny.


Composed? Certainly. Written? Gimme some links proving that.

Harken82 wrote:
The better kept and more corroborated histories of other civilisations disagrees with Christian 'history' on many points (for instance there is no proof that any slaves were employed to build pyramids -- Egyptian history says these were farmers who worked as labourers during flood season, when there was very little farming they could do).


Again, prove that. The Egyptians were HUGE on slave labor. Why would they choose to not use their slaves and build the pyramids themselves?

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Jesus died 2000 years before his story was written down (and now they think even that story was stolen from 2000 years previous to that.


Hogwash. Sure, there are elements of Christ's story that fit with other religions' messianic figures, but 1) You haven't proven that the Bible was written in the Middle Ages, 2) I'll assume that you made an error, because it's patently absurd to claim that the Bible was only written recently, and 3) there are several ancient historians (not including Josephus) that document Christ's existence, and this documentation exists outside of the Bible.

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Some Christians do themselves (and their faith) no favours by being irrational, illogical, incapable of reason, and incapable of accepting any evidence presented to them.


No argument there. But then, Christians are hardly alone in this.

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Having said all that, it's quite funny for me when I realise the following -- which could save Christians from having to argue this point EVER AGAIN.

If God exists, he knows everything and sees everything, right?
If God exists, he can create light, and oceans, and trees and stars, right?
If God exists, he can make human beings from dust, and mud, and ribs, right?

So if you think about it:
He could have created evolution.


Already said this. And I am a Christian. Believe me when I say that we aren't all idiots.

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People can believe what they want, just when they try to tell me I must believe what they say I get annoyed. xD

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If I'm entirely honest I already regret ever commenting on this thread, and for the sake of my own sanity I won't be checking it again.


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Hey man, I'm perfectly nice.

I should have put "IMO" in huge letters before I stated my opinions. I just thought it was implied, on a forum. You know.


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Harken82 wrote:
Hey man, I'm perfectly nice.

I should have put "IMO" in huge letters before I stated my opinions. I just thought it was implied, on a forum. You know.


I'm talking in general. :)

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Harken82 wrote:
Hey man, I'm perfectly nice.

I should have put "IMO" in huge letters before I stated my opinions. I just thought it was implied, on a forum. You know.


Opinion or not, it's free game once you put it up.

But hey, at the end we're still one big happy family, amirite? Except Twilight the bastard child.

HOW'S THAT FOR PLAYING NICE? :twisted:

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im the retarded offspring of 5 monkeys having buttsex with a fish-squirrel

And with that, thread is ended.

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