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 Post subject: I call "bullshit" on OoT being best game ever - with proof!
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So I'm reading Metacritic, and sure enough, Zelda:OoT is the highest ranking game ever with 99/100.

But then I started reading some of the reviews for it....

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An epic adventure that is among the best Nintendo Sixty FOOOOOOUUUUUURRRRRR games. 100/100

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This is Zelda supreme. It's fun. One hitch, however, is that the skill level gets progressively harder - so hard that casual gamers might give up rather quickly. 100/100

HOT GAMES
A slightly flawed masterpiece, but a masterpiece nonetheless. 100/100


Despite the "hitch" and the "flaws" and the fact it is "among the best Nintendo Sixty FOOOOOOUUUUUURRRRRR games", those cheating bastards STILL gave it 100%.

This is unfair. Reviewing a game, picking out flaws, problems and saying "it's not perfect", then giving it a perfecter than perfect score is BULLSHIT. Hell, one of the reviews sounds like they think it is the be all and end all of human existence, yet STILL gave it 95/100, because they knew it wasn't worth 100.

So yeah. I call bullshit on Zelda:OoT being the best game ever, and will now and forever refer to it as the "cheatingest game ever".

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don't let the fanboys get to you blokey...don't let them get to you.

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Well done, you selected the 3 most, for you, beneficial, summaries of reviews out of hundreds. The only suspicious one, as I see it, is the last one, and wtf is "hot games"? Not a very credible source.

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Well done, you selected the 3 most, for you, beneficial, summaries of reviews out of hundreds. The only suspicious one, as I see it, is the last one, and wtf is "hot games"? Not a very credible source.


They were the only 3 that said something negative about the game, yet still gave it 100. That was exactly what I was looking for, so yeah, obviously I chose them, because they were what I was looking for.... :roll:

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Yes, but your point falls apart when you picked out three oscure reviwers out of hundreds.

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There were 22 (I think) reviews that the MC score was based on.

Out of those, about 10 (I think) were 100/100.

Out of those, 3 said something negative about the game, yet still gave it 100/100.

And fucking ROFL @ EGM and GAMEPRO being "obscure". You crazy foreigners crack me up. :lol:

And to answer Sypher's comment on GTA4 on P-N, I believe that ANYONE who says ANYTHING negative about a game and STILL gives it 10/10 or 100/100 or whatever, has not reviewed said game correctly. GTA4 or Z:OoT, this should not happen.

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OoT scored so highly because way back then it was easier to get perfect scores.

If it was released this week, for the first time, it wouldn't get above 85%

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Yeah, but that's because we had lower standards. OoT is widely considered the best game ever, considering it's release. That's the only fair way to do it.

Also, blokeh, for your point to be valid it must mean another game got perfect scores WITHOUT critisism in the reviews. See what I did there? Even though reviewers admit OoT's flaws, there's still no game with fewer flaws. LOL'D ON.

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Other 100/100 reviews for OoT didn't say a bad thing about it, so I didn't include them.

I just can't see how saying "its not perfect" still means you can give something 100/100, cos that IS a perfect score.

That, sir, is my only issue with the scoring. Even if they gave it 99/100, it'd still be 99/100 overall, and I wouldn't complain about a thing. Its just those reviews that contradict themselves....

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There is no such thing as a perfect game. 100/100 does not mean it's perfect. A perfect game would make everyone want to play it. It'd make people sell stuff to afford the console it was on. It'd make people die because they couldn't be bothered to eat.

That's the perfect game, and we all know such a good game is only theoretically possible. Therefore, how do we rank the real games? If 100/100 means everyone dies playing it, then how good is the OoT where perhaps 2 died for some random reason whilst playing it? That'd be like 0.000000000001/100. Instead, 100/100 simply means "this is the best game I've ever played thus far, and I don't think any current game is better".

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i find that logic flawed. if you give a game a 10/10 because it's the best you've played to this point. How do you top that score when something comes along that is better?

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Maybe the OoT is the pinnacle of gaming?

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I quit on this game before i finished the first dungeon lol.
I love TLOZ but i hate playing the really old games lol.
(but i do love the NES and SNES ones )
its the...old...new ones that get to me lol

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i find that logic flawed. if you give a game a 10/10 because it's the best you've played to this point. How do you top that score when something comes along that is better?

By your logic Space Invaders from 1973 should have gotten 0.17/10 because it's really bad compared to today's longevity, gameplay, graphics, story, sound, etc. But it doesn't work like that, luckily. Instead, the demands change over time and a game that would've gotten 10/10 a few years ago wouldn't today anymore, because our standards have changed. This is the only reasonable way to do reviews, because we don't know how awesome, immersive and fleshed out gaming will eventually become.

If OoT was released today it might've gotten 4/10 or something. It'd be a fucking joke. But that stands for all old games, no exceptions. The gameplay of OoT holds up well at least IMO, but the graphics and sound would bring it down so much..

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