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It's not like theres some super nerd editing wikipedia to prove Dirty/Foxy's point.


I bet it's the La-li-lu-le-lo. I bets you it is.


The who?


It's a metal gear thing story arc. Introduced in Sons of Liberty. I don't expect you to remember as you don't seem to be too fond of that era.

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The way I see it, anyone can look on some wiki thing, databases, and all that crap. But the point of a Metal Gear game is to fight a Metal Gear at the end.

I challenge your information with.....My common sense.

Seriously, argue all you want. Them big feck of machines are Metal Gears, have been referred to as Metal Gears within the said games, and are in games...TITLED Metal Gear.

THEY'RE FRIKKIN METAL GEARS! No question.

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I bet it's the La-li-lu-le-lo. I bets you it is.


The who?


It's a metal gear thing story arc. Introduced in Sons of Liberty. I don't expect you to remember as you don't seem to be too fond of that era.


*sigh*

Dude, try typing in the full title of MGS4, then you'll see what I mean....

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Complete this game title....

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns Of The....

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erm...well erm...
NUNS!!!!!!!!
Well it rhymes!!!!!!!!
Do I get any Brucey bonus points for that!???

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How the hell....?

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Seriously, argue all you want. Them big feck of machines are Metal Gears, have been referred to as Metal Gears within the said games, and are in games...TITLED Metal Gear.


I'll say it again just case it's fun. MGS3 doesn't have any Metal Gears in it.

Metal Gears hadn't even been invented yet.


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the only metal gear game I've played is MGS4

and am I correct in thinking, that people within the SOP system or whatever can't say La-li-lu-le-lo?

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The way I see it, anyone can look on some wiki thing, databases, and all that crap. But the point of a Metal Gear game is to fight a Metal Gear at the end.

I challenge your information with.....My common sense.

Seriously, argue all you want. Them big feck of machines are Metal Gears, have been referred to as Metal Gears within the said games, and are in games...TITLED Metal Gear.

THEY'RE FRIKKIN METAL GEARS! No question.


What games have you being playing?
It isn;t a Nintendo franchise, the goal isn;t always going to be the same.

The point of MGS3 was to obtain the philosophers legacy and prevent the cold war evolving, not to stop a metal gear.

MGS: PO was about carrying on the Boss's will, and the foundations of Foxhound, Les enfant terribles, Outer Heaven and the La-li-lu-le-lo. The Metal Gear was only a story catalyst.

Metal Gear was about bringing down outer heaven and Big Boss's own mission to wipe out the "Snake meme". Metal Gear again was only a catalyst, the end goal was to defeat Big Boss and take down outer heaven.

MG2 was almost that same as MG in the respect that it was more or less a second shot for Big Boss (and also Gray Fox) to remove snake. You don't even fight Metal Gear D because it's 'not ready'

MGS is the ONLY one that the main goal is to destroy a Metal Gear, and even that's overshadowed with the whole Liquid issue, the Meryl and Snake love story, the rebirth or 'outer heaven', Naomi's secret mission to kill snake and all those involved in Gray Fox's death and Ocelot's own desire to re-obtain Big Boss's corpse from the La-li-lu-le-lo.

MGS2 is about controlling people. It doesn't even feature a real Metal Gear (Yes, I know Ray is called Metal Gear, but even otacon says it's not really one) And the only thing that was really used for, was tricking Snake.

MGS4, well, it;s about too much to jot down right now, but it's definitely not about stopping any Metal Gears.

Jesus, you're arguing against facts with your own opinion.

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Jesus, you're arguing against facts with your own opinion.


That's right, nobody f*cks with the Jesus!!!!!

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That's just like...your opinion...maaan.

I'm fighting no facts. Yes this is my opinion. And thats the thing, I'm all like "yes this is a metal gear, hoff hoff hoff" and you're all no "NOOOO IT'S NOT I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT IM SO OFFENDED OMG HOW CAN YOU SAY THINGS LIKE THAT! MY SOLID SNAKE WILL TURN INTO SOLIDUS!!!!".

Look dude, you might be correct technically, but don't nitpick. It's a big machine thing, it's a Metal Gear. It might not be technically according to the games chronology, but I think it's only you who gives a damn. I don't have time for your big explainations about how much you know about the metal gear series. None have that has any weight on this conversation.

The games are called Metal Gear. Each game I've played ends in a boss fight with one. Ray was referred to as "Metal Gear" (even though you claim it isnt). Who gives? They might as well be a Metal bloomin Gear as they are practically the same.

You don't call a scorpion a spider, even though it technically is, it'd take a freak to say "Oh look at that spider" about a scorpion (best example I can give).

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Old style gramophones are the precursers (or original states) of modern day MP3 players.

So Shahohod was the "first" Metal Gear, but only the basis upon which Big Boss expanded.

Discuss.

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Aww come on man, You didnt even comment on my Big Lebowski reference!

I would say that in a way, you are correct. Like Gramophones are like MP3 players in that they are old and new methods of musical output. However they are still Music Players. You could say...

Music player: MP3 and Music Player: Gramophone. like...

Metal Gear: Rex Model, Metal Gear: Ray model.

Nah that's all BS. I've kinda got a point but there's too many opportunities to argue against it. So I'll say...

Yeah Foxy Dirt is probably technically correct. But in this world, a big metal robot in a game on a console that some people play...it's obscure. And I think, to emphasise variation between two models in terms of not calling them the same name, when in actual fact they are not very different at all, is splitting hairs. The fact that they call all the games "Metal Gear" says to me that they are more than catalysts within a greater story. ALL the games are about Metal Gear in one way or another. Practically all the games have a Metal Gear as an end boss. The ones that dont? They have bosses which are almost identical to Metal Gear, only with enough variation to give the gameplay a chance to be different from title to title.

Again, splitting hairs. It might as well be a Metal Gear and no matter how much someone humps the story line and parades to be the biggest metal quear solid of all time, dosn't make them any less boring over complaining about the name of a pretend machine.

It looks like this thread is gettin out of hand. Some close it or something, cause I feel obliged to respond to replies :roll:

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